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Zephac · Mar 09, 2009, 12:33 PM // 12:33

I am wondering is the UWSC really worth it i mean if you fail most groups make you pay the cons so is it really worth it becuz to a new person they are going to fail alot?

and if i might ask to thoses who already do it, How offen to you see a Voltic Spear or Eternal Blade drop?

Ate of DK · Mar 09, 2009, 12:40 PM // 12:40

I don't know anything about speedclears.. I can answer the other question.

I don't go that often to the underworld or fissure but I can assure you that I got a r12 Voltaic Spear and a r13 obsidian edge. Both from the Fissure chest during one of my latest runs. One was 2 weeks ago and the other 2 months ago.

Fortuna1 · Mar 09, 2009, 12:52 PM // 12:52

Well, Chamber sin is very easy and failing at it is very hard,
But most of the sins require eotn skills etc, so it will take a while to get all the skills for the build, IMO it is worth it!
Good luck

Lyynyyrd · Mar 09, 2009, 12:58 PM // 12:58

Not worth it. If some bitch asks you to pay for cons, say no.

If you want to make money, scam.

Zephac · Mar 09, 2009, 01:01 PM // 13:01

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Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd

Not worth it. If some bitch asks you to pay for cons, say no.

If you want to make money, scam.

so you are saying dont pay for the cons it is a scam

Mordiego · Mar 09, 2009, 01:03 PM // 13:03

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Originally Posted by Zephac

so you are saying dont pay for the cons it is a scam

nah, he's just toying with U. Don't bother careing.
Watch the youtube videos, read guides, get recommended gear, rank up your vanguard, get rich or die trying.

Shadow Slave · Mar 09, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05

I often find myself with little else to do, so yep, it's worth it.

Easy, nice return - got an R9 Eternal after about 40ish runs (?) - Seen one other drop, and 1 Voltaic.

Study the roles - Wiki decent enough place to start - then learn by doing.

It appeals to me because Hero/Henching everywhere is boring - UWSC at least involves real people. I might stop when they /ressurect AB.

Eragon Zarroc · Mar 09, 2009, 01:32 PM // 13:32

it is worth it if the group succeeds. pay 850 per person for shared conset, get back an ecto, diamond, uw scroll, two objects which have a chance to be uber rare. runs take under half hour if done right. pugging it though is annoying, 20min to find a group, 10min to start, 40 min in after using a backup celerity u fail, lol. can get annoying.

Rhiana Reborn · Mar 09, 2009, 01:46 PM // 13:46

I don't do UWSC runs myself, but if the user above me is correct, 850 gold isn't a big investment for an average of 2 ectos/run (as seen in another thread somewhere around here.). If you're competent, you'll get AT least your money back each run - and an ecto will pay for another run, at least.

OsSeGu · Mar 09, 2009, 01:47 PM // 13:47

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

it is worth it if the group succeeds. pay 850 per person for shared conset, get back an ecto, diamond, uw scroll, two objects which have a chance to be uber rare. runs take under half hour if done right. pugging it though is annoying, 20min to find a group, 10min to start, 40 min in after using a backup celerity u fail, lol. can get annoying.

this. And going with your guild/friends really helps

Zephac · Mar 09, 2009, 01:52 PM // 13:52

Again to thoses who do it what about FOWSC? is it worth it do you get good things from the FOW Chest that are worth doing the SC ?

Pleikki · Mar 09, 2009, 02:21 PM // 14:21

No its not, Do balanced..

Yuna Matsumarui · Mar 09, 2009, 02:25 PM // 14:25

i've been doing quite some UWSC, i find it worth the effort, though. never found something worth of value ( only get triple scrolls.. lol ) but the ectos are worth the trouble for me. depends on your PUG whether you're gonna fail or make it to the chest. make sure you collect, when someone doesnt know how much to pay kick him, he's obviously not [exp], also if the chamber sin walks back at the start of the UWSC, leave and go again with another chamber sin. i'd recommend starting as a vale sin. the luring is quite tricky when you do it for the first time, though vale is not a really popular area so you should be fine finding groups. + if you fail the necro/monk can res you. i'd recommend

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...=uwsc+tutorial

for watching, really helpful. join a UWSC to get on a learning-run for areas you're not sure you won't fail on. and pay for cons when you fail, this makes the UWSC for others alot more fun. i've learned Vale by vids, and i taught chamber myself, by watching vids and wasting 3 consets before i realised i had to do the wall trick when luring the chamber creatures. lol. Pits is not hard either. hardest is probably either pools or mountains. plains is easy, but you have to know all other areas because you're their backup when they die.

hope this helps.

imnotyourmother · Mar 09, 2009, 02:27 PM // 14:27

WOO UWSR here I COME....
850 is cheep I think the price fell form 1K a while back

Xhizors · Mar 09, 2009, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

No its not, Do balanced..

thats so true

nikkooo · Mar 09, 2009, 02:46 PM // 14:46

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

No its not, Do balanced..

at least 1-2 hours for a clear?
no thanks

faraaz · Mar 09, 2009, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

No its not, Do balanced..

TAM philosophy fails.

UW SC stands for Under World SPEED CLEAR .

If you want to spend 4 hours down there, only to fail when trying to do 4h, be my guest.

Loki Seiguro · Mar 09, 2009, 02:59 PM // 14:59

As a frequent UW and Fow SCer I'd say it is worth it. My latest FOWSC was 35 min, fastest being 30min, but you can get less than that with a good group.

As for drops going as a solo sin in any of the runs seems more profitable to me (they get at elast 1-2 obo shards in fow alone) But it takes a while to learn how to do the soloing.

As for UW I prefer to be chamber sin because soloing there for me in anything but plains is too much for me to bother with. Don't ask why but I always die if I do anything else

bad luck I guess.

Chestwise, seen 2 obo edges drop, no votaic or eternal though. And I've always gotten at least 2 obo shards from end chest and 3 ecto per run in UW.

*Thinking of bringing my survivor RoJ monk to FoW as it is 100k exp per run with quests not including kills. Dagerous but I'd recommend it if you have a guild that does it a lot.

Sierraa · Mar 09, 2009, 03:07 PM // 15:07

I don't think uwsc is really worth it. It's something to do if you don't mind doing it, but if you have luck like mine you're probably better off doing something else. :P

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

...pugging it though is annoying, 20min to find a group, 10min to start, 40 min in after using a backup celerity u fail, lol. can get annoying.

Not sure where you're attempting to uwsc but it very rarely takes me more than 5 mins to find a group, and it's never taken 10 mins to start. o; After I do my job I usually go afk so I don't mind waiting if we have to use a backup. :]

Taixen · Mar 09, 2009, 03:45 PM // 15:45

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Originally Posted by Pleikki

No its not, Do balanced..

This ^^

Who cares if you spend a couple of hours just to fail. Half, if not all of the fun in it should be just playing/ having a good conversation with friends on Vent or whatever.